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We use m2m tokens to allow our (B2B) clients to integrate with our APIs. However, it’s really hard to control their implementation.
It’s not uncommon that their server keeps calling auth0 asking for new m2m tokens that can lead to over-quota pretty easily.
Right now, we are adding another layer on top of auth0 to cache tokens that are still valid.
Not being able to cache M2M tokens or to rate-limit the generation of these tokens by application is a real show-stopper for us.
We wanted to open up our APIs to partners, but this is impossible in the current state. Within a few minutes, one single partner/customer can block the APIs for everyone else.
The two solutions that I see here, are:
Put a rate-limit on token generation by application, so that an M2M API consumer can only block himself, if generation is abused.
Implement a cache for generated tokens so that the API owners can control the generation through token lifetime.
What has been suggested in the past, is to use a Hook/Action to control the token generation or the cache. But this would need something like a redis openly available on the Internet to cache lifetimes, application IDs, etc. This is both a problem for high-availability and for security.
We would gladly pay more, but the upgraded account types only contain more tokens per month. So the problem would remain the same.
this has also been discussed a long time ago here:
If we have a solution where we use the REDIS cache and then throw an error when we hit the specific limit that we set. Does the token usage only increment on successful passes or does it count for each invocation of the API?
To be frank, this seems like a big - huge - gaping hole in the feature offering of Auth0. Who wouldn’t be interested in this improvement? In a world where we pay for tokens – this is a problem that every user of tokens has to solve, there is no way around it. This has to be a DRY violation on a massive scale : )
Is there a way to use actions caching to accomplish this? We are having serious issues with B2B partners blowing through our M2M token quotas because we have no way to rate limit. Looking through the docs on the M2M flow, it isn’t clear to me how one would go about fetching a cached access token and returning that instead of a new one to avoid this problem.
We don’t currently have a solution for this. The “caching in actions” that just rolled out is entirely unrelated and covers caching external resources within an action. (e.g. caching a token you retrieve from Slack). It doesn’t control issuing tokens to your clients.
Totally agree. Lately we released a feature in which our customers can use our API and in 3 weeks we got to a whopping number that covers about 85% of our monthly quota, although we currently have only 10 api clients. From what I see our customers request for a new token upon each request, but I can’t really control their usage. I don’t want to cache it on my side, I don’t think that’s an appropriate solution.
Currently we are starting to investigate for solutions other than auth0 for this issue, because it’s a really big issue for us.
We had an incident this week: a client failed to cache their token and burned through 360,000 tokens in one day. This was way over the quota we’d paid for. We are charged for these tokens (I think on our plan, this number of tokens comes out to ~$2k).
I can see why Auth0 wouldn’t prioritize this: reducing the number of M2M tokens consumed certainly cuts into their bottom line. I’m not sure we would if this were where I work.
That said, as a former champion of Auth0 at work, I’m now on an impromptu-created cross-functional team to investigate moving off of it.