# Trying to get user roles results in either "404 page not found" or "not found"

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**Category:** Get Help\
**Tags:** user-profile, user-management\
**Created:** [April 23, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.auth0.com/t/trying-to-get-user-roles-results-in-either-404-page-not-found-or-not-found/132667 "2024-04-23T23:52:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joshua.Wilkeson](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/User_font_awesome.svg/768px-User_font_awesome.svg.png) [@Joshua.Wilkeson](https://community.auth0.com/u/Joshua.Wilkeson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://community.auth0.com/t/trying-to-get-user-roles-results-in-either-404-page-not-found-or-not-found/132667/2 "2024-04-24T01:22:41Z")

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I read [this](https://community.auth0.com/t/roles-and-permissions-not-added-by-default/106663/3)

> I will note that it is common practice to infer roles from permissions

Can someone please expand on this and the reasoning behind it?

Edit: Asking chatgpt, it says it’s to reduce redundancy which is understandable, is that why?

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